Jan Stephenson - Part 3 (More LPGA Wins & the Majors)

Outro Music 0:07

Straight down the middle. It went straight down the middle. Then it started to Bruce the Nixon was a major.

Bruce Devlin 0:16

We've been uh 81 Peter Jackson Classic.

Jan Stephenson 0:21

That was really special because my father was catting for me. Um, because you know now they were traveling together because I had settled into America. So my parents came over for three, my dad would take three months long service leave. Um they'd they'd come the end of May, and I just couldn't wait. I was so close to them. And my father, my parents would drive my car, and I would, and I by then I had my own private plane. Um, so I I was kind of ahead of my time then. I I got my pilot's license in like 75 and 70s when I was living in uh Ariz in uh California with my boyfriend that I finished up marrying, and we both got our license, and so it was a way for him to to draw. So I've I would fly my plane mostly, and we would fly to tournaments. Um so that part of it was fun. But he didn't he didn't come because it was Canada, so I flew commercially, and my dad's my mom and dad drove. And I loved, I always loved being in Canada because they they you know it feel like you know part of the the Commonwealth, and my parents loved it because my dad loved the Canadian B, and everybody was was so friendly because we were we were Aussies, and um, and I loved Montreal because I'd gotten um I'd I'd had a scholarship for French, and so I always loved speaking French. So um I remember that tournament because the week before we played Rochester, New York, and I'd I'd I finished third. It was Nancy Lopez one, and Pat Bradley finished second, and I finished third, and I blew it putting down the stretch. I I had a chance to Birdie 17, I got on in two and I three putted, it was a par five. And I had missed a short putt on 16 of about four feet. And so I felt like I was really playing well. And in um, like I said, whenever I putted well, I would win. And so I really struggled with if ever I missed or made my first six-foot of the day, whether it was for par or birdie, if I made that, I had a great event, great tournament. And so my parents, everybody was always so nervous on my first putt. It was a tricky, you know, a six-foot putt. They were saying, this could be because I had I had a terrible temper back then. I looked back, I was so probably because I was always tired, but I I didn't have patience at all. I mean, I feel like I have a lot now. People say I don't, but I think I have a lot of patience now. And and plus I have much more confidence in my putting. So it was it was always the turning point if I could make, especially if it was a par. I didn't miss the paw patch as much as the birdie putts. And so I remember on the first day of the of the event, um, was already feeling really comfortable. I loved the sponsors. They were so it's really sad because DeMarier and Peter Jackson of DeMarier were always so supportive of sport, of Canadian sport. And when the government came down and said no more drugs, supporting sports and arts, it was really sad because it was so much fun and it was such an amazing major. I think it was one of my favorite majors because they treated you like gold. Like at the Dinosaur, you know, it was always about the grocery store owners and the grocery store president. It was more about them and the celebrities than it was about the event, about the pro part of it. And with the DeMarrier, they really, or the Peter Jackson, they really made you feel special. And I got to speak French all week. And I remember I I I think I won that one. Did I win that one wide or why, Mike?

Mike Gonzalez 3:48

Uh I'm not sure about why or wire. It probably was because your rounds were 69, 66, 70, 73. So I wouldn't doubt it.

Jan Stephenson 3:58

Yeah, I've won, I think most of my events I won why led, I usually won. So I remember my first six foot of the day, the birdie, and I'd hit a five-wood, I think it was on the third or fourth hole. And I hit a five wood to like six feet, and and my parents were both really nervous, and my father was catting, and I made that putt. And I remember the roar was so big, and I'm like, this is like being in at home in Australia because it's like I'm this Commonwealth player that there was no really Canadians in in contention. So it was the best feeling to have everybody supporting me. Because I still, even though I was popular with the galleries, I wasn't, you know, there was people that were still against what I was doing, what I was wearing. And so I had this huge support and I loved it. And and my parents were treated like gold. And so I remember I was coming down the stretch to one, I was leading wire to wire, and I had a pretty big lee going into the last round. But um, you know, it's it is a lot of pressure because you're doing all the media stuff, you know, when you're leading in a major. And on the last, we had just I just started working with David Pelz, just started working with David, and he had come to us in uh, he'd come to me in 78, late 78, um, no, 79, and said, I've done all these statistics and you and Tom Kite hit the most greens and um and the most fair ways, and I think your short game, I can change your short game. If you would take get three wedges and work on all this stuff I've developed on putting, and I'm like, there's no way I'm taking out my two wine. Are you kidding? Which I look back now, I think that's so funny. And he's like, if I prove to you that you can go without a two-wine, and you'd be better off with a third wedge. And now I have four wedges, and I was like, Well, I've never heard of that. And he goes, No, no, I've got this whole statistics. And if you come whenever you've got any spare time and work with me, he lived in Baltimore at the time, so Baltimore country. So I would take an extra day and um whenever I could and and fly out to see him and we'd do all these statistics, and he'd come out on tour. And so I I remember in 1979, maybe in 1980, he said, um, I I I he said, I want you to go to three wedges, which I'm like, okay, I'm gonna get rid of my two-wine, which was horrifying to me. And I won short game of the year in 81. So it he was right. Um, so we developed all of this, we still teach us to this day how to hit half and three-quarter shots, and and um, and I started really working hard on my short game. So, and not the putting, but the short game part, and it was it was great. So I remember on the uh we he had convinced us on the last tall was a par five, and every day I had not birdied it, and I'd gone for the green in two, and the way that was you could there were bunkers, it was covered in bunkers, and then they had bunkers about 40 yards short of the green, which you know, as you know, is a hard bunker shot. And if you couldn't carry it over those bunkers and you got stuck in them, or if you hit them to the right, it was impossible to get up and down. But I couldn't resist, and I would go for the green every day on the last day, and I didn't make birdie. So we on Sunday, and my father kept saying, We have trained, we have practiced all of last year, which is 1980. We practiced, you know, he would we'd have walkie-talkies and towels and and laundry baskets, and we'd do half wedges, three-quarter wedges, and yardages to all of these distances. And yet every time I'd have a chance, on the if there was one tournament where I really needed it, I wouldn't do it, I'd go for the green. So on the Sunday, um, Nancy Lopez, I guess, made about a 30-footer on 17 and apparently a 20-footer on 18 to go to to tie me. And Pat Bradley made about a 30-footer on 18, and I heard the roar because they were up ahead of me. Huge roar. And so now I had to birdie the last, or we have to go into another playoff. And I'd already lost to Pat and Lopez the week before in Rochester. And I'm like, I know my my odds of winning are not good if I have to go into a playoff. So my father and I, and I'm going, I took out my three-wood to get it onto the green in two. And I was actually, in those days, I was kind of deceivingly long. But I had to hit it, I didn't hit it that high. And so now it's probably because I was so shut, but I had to carry that bunker, or I was going to be stuck like 40 yards short of the green and impossible to get up and down. And my father said, We have practiced this every time you've taken a week off. Let's lay up to a perfect nine o'clock sandwich. And I'm like, Oh, I don't know if I want to do that. I know I can get at home. I'm hitting it so straight. And he goes, but if you don't carry the bunker, you won't be able to birdie the hole. It's gonna make it hard for you to birdie the hole. And I'm like, oh, I didn't want to. And I went, you're right. We have spent all of this time with with with David, and um, and I have practiced this shot and over and over and over. And he said, Let's lay up to exactly nine o'clock. So I went, okay. So people were shocked, and they're like, she's laying up with an iron. You know, she's nervous on TV. They're like, why is she laying up? And because you know, in those days you just didn't do that if you could reach it. And I laid up and I hit my nine o'clock, and I hit it at maybe um, I hit it because you know, you're a little pumped when I hit it about um, I hit it exactly 12 feet away, and I hit maybe I pulled it like a yard, and I had this downhill left to right part, but I hit it, you know, and I said, he said, now that's better, you couldn't get it that close from the bunker. I went, yeah, you're probably right. So now I had this downhill left to right part. And in those days, you know, we all use obviously the metal spikes, and the sun was setting, and it's on TV, and I remember lining up my putt and looking down the line, and there were like it looked like mountains, all these little mountains of spikes, and you know, and you couldn't tap them down, and you know those metal spikes, they just popped everywhere, and I kept swearing the players were doing it on purpose, yeah, because I was like, I've never seen so many spike marks in a 12-foot putt. And it was and they the the light was just hitting them all. I'm like, how am I ever gonna do this? And my dad said, Remember, you practiced that we're doing the pre-shop routine and the pre-ritual, like you know, David taught. And I went, I was so nervous, and the pot went in, and so and my father was there, and it was just the best. That was the best fun win because um my parents were there and the gallery was going crazy, and I did my speech in French, and so of course I was a big superstar, and that was really the most fun major.

Mike Gonzalez 10:44

Yeah, that had to be pretty special. Uh uh, let's just go to the next one uh later that year because uh it's noteworthy in that this was the Mary Kay Classic at Bentry Country Club. You must have been playing pretty well.

Jan Stephenson 11:01

Yeah, I was I was pretty I was really on it. 81 I was on I was really playing well because I'd already won the World Ladies um in Japan. The one that I finished eighth when I was in my first year was that I won that one against I Okamoto, and that was a hard one for me before that because I that was about May. Um I remember it was a hard, oh I think it was in April because we played, I played Atlanta, and then I'm I was playing really well in Atlanta, and I always felt like that course owed me again because I'd missed it originally. And uh I I missed some putts coming down the stretch and missed it, but I got on a plane and went to Japan, and Ayako Okamoto was a superstar. Her and Chaco were huge stars back then, and of course we had enormous galleries, and I was now the opposite. Instead of being the favorite, I was like the you know, the person coming in from out of country to beat their two superstars. And it started to rain on the last day, and I hate playing in the rain, the cold and the rain. And I was like, this is not good, but it was whenever I'd make a putt, they all booed. And it was like quite shocking for me to have people not, you know, like being on my side, because it was always like me against establishment. And I was really, I I didn't like the feeling, it was making me want to cry because they didn't want me to do well. And I remember on like the 16th hole, um, I I hit, I made, I I actually hit in the bunk, I got up about six feet and I made the putt. And I was so happy I made the putt. And everybody booed, and I turned around before I even went to get my putt out of the hole. I turned around, looked at everybody, and Ayako actually got up and said something to everybody in Japan, in Japanese. And and I said, What did you say? Going to the next, I said, What did you tell him? She said, I told him that that's not what you do in golf, because whenever I come to America, they they clap for me, and you're not supposed to do that. And she shouted to everybody, and it was like, wow. And so, but when I I won the tournament in the last hole, I I um I two putter was two-putter for the for the win. There was dead silence. So there wasn't booing, but there was not one cheer when I won the world ladies. Not one cheer because I beat Chaco and and Ayako.

Mike Gonzalez 13:17

Yeah, they were they were national heroes, weren't they?

Jan Stephenson 13:20

Oh yeah, big time.

Mike Gonzalez 13:21

So this Mary Yeah, I was just gonna say, Bruce, this Mary K classic, I just I just want to make a point to our listeners. This was a win by 11 over Sandra Haney with rounds of 65, 69, 64, minus 18. It set the LPG all-time record for winning margin, which was finally equaled about uh 21 years later by uh a young girl from Sweden.

Jan Stephenson 13:45

Yeah, and then the golf course was a hard golf course, and it was actually kind of cute coming down the stretch on 18 because that nobody they didn't have any more red numbers. So they had to actually take and make a number, make it red. They had to take a sharpie and make an 18 because they didn't have any. They ran out of the last three holes. They like, we don't have any more numbers, we only go to. I'm trying to think, I'm gonna see. I actually kept it, I took it with me. They only went to 10, so they had to put a one on the eight.

Mike Gonzalez 14:14

Is that right? There you go. That's oh, that's great. Look at that, yeah. 18 under.

Jan Stephenson 14:19

Because nobody had ever shot that low, and they didn't, they only went up to 10. It was such a hard golf course. I was hitting it so well, but now I had the combination of being able to, I became then really known for my wedges because I became so deadly with my wedges from practicing that system all the time. Um, so it it actually worked out to be great. But uh it I remember I had a five-shot lead with one round to go, and I was I couldn't sleep. I'm like, everybody is assuming I'm gonna win, and I've never really had this big a lead. I was I got nervous because I was staying at home because I had a place in Fort Worth. And I'm like, people are gonna think um you, you know, that you've choked if you don't win from five shots up. And so I was so paranoid. And then my first hole of the day, I had a six-foot pot. And I made it. I went, oh, and now I know I'm gonna win. And so I just got on a streak, and and um I it was one of those days where I uh my wedges were all close, so all of my par fives, I you know, I birdied, and then on the last hole was a really hard hole with water. And I actually, this is the one where I was just trying to get it on the green, and the pin was tucked way right up against the water, and I actually pushed it and thought, oh shit, I just hit that in the water. And then it looks, it went so close, and then they said on TV, she's not even afraid of the water, she's still going for it when she has that big a lead, and I really didn't. I actually pushed that one, but I made the pot for Bertie, so it was a pretty fun round.

Mike Gonzalez 15:52

You were on a tremendous roll, Bruce. Uh as you look at this record, you know, when you when you go from the the win, the first major nineteen eighty went to Peter Jackson, all the way through the win of the nineteen eighty-three U.S. women's open. That's a span of seven majors. Jan won three of them.

Bruce Devlin 16:10

Yeah, that's right. And and to finish off uh 81, Jan, after winning at the Mary Kay, you won the uh United Virginia Bank Classic at Sleepy Hollow Golf Course, and then finish the year off with the World Ladies at uh Ibaraki uh golf club in Japan.

Jan Stephenson 16:29

Yeah, and and actually I think I won I won um I won we had a series of matches. No, that because that was 82. I was gonna say we had a series of matches against um Bernard and uh Beth Daniel and I were number one and number two from that, so we we had a series of matches in Europe that we played against uh Greg and uh and one and two in Europe, which was Greg and Bernard. Greg didn't like it because we won. So we the girls beat the boys.

Mike Gonzalez 16:57

Uh oh uh oh. Well let's go to the next major then, 1990 uh 1982 LPG Championship at the Jack Nicholas Golf Center by two over Joanne Carner.

Bruce Devlin 17:11

Another wire to wire.

Jan Stephenson 17:14

Yeah, it's as soon as I make that first part, it's okay. But I had a real 82 and 83 was was off the golf course. I had a lot of struggles. Um I had it's kind of a crazy story, but I did get it annulled. But I married my manager at the time in 82. It was beginning of 82. I broke my foot playing playing uh raccool. And um I broke up with my boyfriend, Eddie Vossler, and had this, my manager was with me, and I broke my foot and I was so upset, so um I didn't think I could play again. And so um I I got married, which was a pretty bad mistake. So by the time we played the dinosaur, I had to play it with a cast on my foot, they had to make me a golf shoe with a cast. And and I realized I'd made a mistake, so I had to go through getting annulled, and then he he tried to sue me for trying to, then he sued Eddie, then he tried to have me put in an in a um Baker acted because they said that Eddie must have brainwashed me. So I had all this horrible stuff going on. It was hard for me to play. I'd I'd had months with my, you know, trying again trying to play with a broken foot, so I had to let that heal. And because you can't do it and walk. And so um I I really had a pretty bad time from from all of that year. And so to me, and the of course the media were going crazy. My parents came over to try to help me, so they came early. And uh it was I was trying I became such a recluse because I uh everywhere I'd go, you'd you'd read all these, you know, you'd be at the grocery store and they'd they'd have the National Inquirer and it'd be all pictures of me with two men, and and then people would say, Look, that's her, and it was like I couldn't even go. I was I had a horrible time getting through all of that. And so um once I got it annulled, it was I still had the media going crazy. That's all they wanted to talk about. So I I would just felt so into the I could go inside the ropes and then nobody could talk to me and nobody could do anything. So I just really focused on my game. And I was like, I just want to play golf. My dad was catting for me, and he was like, come on, we can talk about it. And I would talk about it even when I was playing with my dad, but it was like I was pouring my heart out to him, and so golf became so important to be this, you know, this little I could little haven. And uh so for me to win that, I I don't know how I did it, but I won that one.

Mike Gonzalez 19:49

And your dad was on the bag, he got a new car out of the deal, didn't you?

Jan Stephenson 19:52

Yeah, he did. He actually got quite a few cars because, well, he supp I owed him actually when he got cancer, I I went down to Australia because we had a we had a manual car because my father was a big mechanic, so he did not like automatic cars back then. But now that my he got cancer, my mom couldn't drive him because she didn't know how to drive a stick. So I had won five cars over the years with Mazda, and I'd had um three holding ones and one two majors where you got a car. So I had five five Mazdas, I owed my dad some of that as caddie. So I bought him a I didn't buy the Mazda, I bought him a Toyota that my mom could drive. I said, I owe you I I actually owe you this, so it's for all of the wins I've had with the car.

Bruce Devlin 20:37

Yeah.

Mike Gonzalez 20:38

Brucey sandwiched three more wins in between majors there.

Bruce Devlin 20:42

Yes, you win uh again 82, the Lady Keystone opened, and then uh to start 83, you won in Tucson, and then won Lady Keystone again. You yeah, you obviously like Lord. Yeah, I was like, Well, I loved Hershey.

Jan Stephenson 20:58

Hershey was fun because it was like a holiday. You know, they would shut down Hershey Park, and my parents were always there, and I remember the first time I did it, I won um, I think I think it was right after winning the LPGA championship, wasn't it? There was. No, did I win in the year?

Bruce Devlin 21:14

Yeah, you won in '82. Yeah, one over Barbara.

Jan Stephenson 21:17

So it was the week after the the majors, and usually you I like to take off, but they had begged me. Um the LPGA had said, you know, we really need you to play because you know, everybody takes off after they've won a major, and and this is pretty important for you to play. So I remember I I played in that one, and then um they then they then uh I had the press I did the press day for the US Open after that. So then I had to fly to do the press day for the open. And so I was pretty tired, but I did it because it was going to be in Oklahoma, and Ray Volpey wanted me, said this is really huge to do it. So it it worked out great. And then the next time I wanted, My dad, it was it was Father's Day, American Father's Day. And we're on, and I had given my daddy's presence on Sunday morning, and I was in the last group, because it seemed like I was always in the last couple of groups. I actually should have won way more. I was probably in the last three groups for a long time. And um I said, Well, we're I remember we're on the first hole, and then I said, Well, did you like your presence? And he goes, I'd have rather you won the tournament for my Father's Day present. I went, Dad, I'm five back. I'm not sure I can do it. And he said, I want you to be very patient, because you, you know, because I back then I had no patience. He said, I want you to be very patient, but I want you to win this from Father's Day. And so on the last hole, I I made a 12-foot putt downhill to win. And I went, that was a very hard Father's Day present.

Mike Gonzalez 22:54

Well, let's talk about major number three then. Uh we're now in Oklahoma at Cedar Ridge Country Club, the 1983 U.S. Open, where you won by one over again, Joanne Carner and Patty Sheehan.

Jan Stephenson 23:09

That was a that was an important one. I mean, it was actually the turn of not being the favorite anymore. Um Ray Volpey had left and we had a new commissioner. But I've always wanted, ever since I was a kid, when I was 13 and 14, when you know, when my father was giving me my goals or what I should what I wanted to do, or when I was trying to get a surfboard, he had one day it was really, really cold. I remember it was like August and it was cold and rainy and and I didn't want to go to practice. And my father got home from night shift, and I told my mom, I I give up, I'm taking the bus to school. There's no way I'm gonna practice this morning. And my father walked in with a hot water bottle, which nobody knows what that is anymore, and and put it at my feet and said, This is the type of thing when you don't want to practice and you don't want to do something because it's uncomfortable or you you don't like it. That's what it takes to win a US Open. And I was like, Oh, Dad, you have to do that again. So he always dangled the US Open for me. Um, because he thought like Australian Open was something I could do easily. So it was always like, you know, winning a US Open is gonna make you a superstar. And I'm like, Dad, I I don't want to do it. But he said, This is what it takes. And so I got up and practiced in that horrible weather. So my parents were there when I won the US Open, and he always says, Do you remember that time when um I said I'll never forget it? And so it was so great to share that with them when I won the open because it was it was really important. But that that win, um, it was such hot weather. It was like over a hundred every day. I remember walking onto their driving range on Wednesday or Thursday, and and I looked and I said, Well, where is and there was, you know, we had one of the um volunteers and he had an umbrella up, and and I said, Where is everybody? And he said, It's 108 um uh heat index. There's no one here. And I said, So I have the whole range to myself. I was like, this is great. It's you know, the US Open, you can't move. And I'm like, oh, this is awesome. And he's they um they all remind me of that. That I was the ones like, oh, this is great. I can practice anywhere I want. I've got the putting green in myself. I was the only one that practiced that day, and it was 108. And so, but that was when things changed for me because the new commissioner had come on board, and when I'd done the press day the year before for it, they um the the director of golf was a great guy, so he was buddy, and I really got on well with him. And he said, I would like to buy um, I want to order your poster. And he said, I want to order them, and then if you would just do me a favor, and at the time, this was on 82 when we were arranging it all. Ray Volpe said that you would come and spend an hour every day and sign autographs if they buy the poster and buy a dozen bowls and a poster that you would sign it. And I went, okay, I'll do that, even though it was during a major. And I tried not to do too much during a major. I said, okay, if it, you know, if Ray's committed to that, I'll do it. So then it comes time for the open in 83, and um the posters are there, and I get called in to the official, you know, they had the the um the trailer, and I called into the trailer, and there's a new commissioner, his name was John Loppheimer, and he goes, Um, and he came from the USGA, which made it you know kind of worse. And he goes, I need to talk to you. And I see, I said, Yeah, yeah, what's the what is it? And he goes, I understand you're signing that pornographic poster at a US Open. And I went, Pornographic? I don't think it's too pornographic. I mean, but I I've got nothing to do with this. I'm not making any money from this. This was the pro that wanted to do it, and I did it as a favor for him to say I would sign. And he goes, How dare you um do this to the USGA? How dare you try to monetize? I said, I'm not making any money from this, I'm just trying to help. And he goes, Um, and in those days, Ray Volpey had been pretty good because I was always getting fined for things I'd, you know, I shouldn't do. I'd hit too many practice balls onto a practice ground on the green during practice round, and it was a fine if you hit more than two. But I would go out late in the afternoon when I got there from doing all the media stuff that I may not even get back in town till Tuesday late. So I would just actually play a few holes and chip and putt around the green. And he goes, and so then it would be alright. So, well, Jan has a favor, she just did this press day. And so it was always take that fine off because we had a list of favors that LPG the LPGA owed me, and and so they would tick them off. And so Roy Velpe turned it, pulled it off the off the um off the wall, and said, That's enough of that, you're no more the favorite of the LPGA. And then he took all my pictures, because if you walked into the LPGA office in New York, it was picture after picture of me, and you know, and they go, No more of the wallpapering with Jan Stevenson. So he had all my pet pictures destroyed. Um, and in so it became a totally different world. So now it was the it was back to when I was a kid, it's the LPGA against me. So it was it turned in that time in that short of time.

Mike Gonzalez 28:28

I'm surprised he lasted six years as commissioner.

Jan Stephenson 28:32

Yeah, I know, we all do. But he was he didn't believe in marketing, didn't believe in PR, and he lived off of the ten years of contracts that we had signed.

Mike Gonzalez 28:41

So you had a pretty cool telephone congratulatory call, didn't you, after that win?

Jan Stephenson 28:48

I did, and that was so funny because I was I was signing autographs and they came up and they said the president would like to talk to you. And I said, Oh, I can talk to the president of the club in a minute. I'm just you know signing these autographs and just kind of savoring this win. And they went, No, it's the president of the United States. I was like, Oh. So I went in, it was Ronald Reagan, and and he said, You had me worried there, young lady, just as well you had a cushion because you bogeyed the last two holes. I said, I know, can you believe that bad ruling I got on 17? And so I was actually surprised that he was watching me on TV. It was pretty cool.

Mike Gonzalez 29:24

Yeah, you must have been a fan.

Jan Stephenson 29:26

One thing I didn't tell you when I won the open though was um I played with borrowed clubs because the week before I had the that week I'd gone to have a lesson from Ed Oldfield in Chicago, and that was on I practiced with him on Monday. So Tuesday I was going down to Oklahoma to play, um, a practice round of the open, and I had I was staying with some friends, and my clubs were in the trunk of his car. So when I went outside to pack my bag to get a taxi to the airport, his car wasn't there. So I went back inside and said, What did you do with your car? And his car got stolen with my clubs in it. So now I had to go to the US Open with and I didn't have any clubs. So he let me, his clubs, he said, when you get there, see what you can do. Well, the trouble is our trailer was on its way to Boston because this event was, you know, that we was just going to be a local trailer and not our repair trailer because it was on its because it was driving to Boston. So I had to call Taylor Maid and they got me some fairway medals because I was playing, I think I was playing, I know I was playing the driver. And some so I had to go to sh to to the open with borrowed clubs, and I still have those clubs to this day, and they were little tiny Wilson staff with an extra stiff shaft, with a stiff shaft, which I couldn't play. And I hit the most greens all week I've led in greens hit, but I think it's because I couldn't hit them crooked, because they would they would go like this high off the ground, but they were so stiff, and I can't believe I won with bar and cords. That's amazing.

Mike Gonzalez 31:00

Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, well, with that win, that U.S. Open win, of course, that was your third different major. And at least at the time, I don't know what the number is now, but at the time you joined only four other golfers who had ever done that. Pretty cool.

Jan Stephenson 31:15

That's pretty cool. And I should have won the dinosaur a million times.

Mike Gonzalez 31:20

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Outro Music 31:41

Whack down the fairway. It went smack down the fairway. And it started to slice just smitch offline. It had it for two, but it bounced off. My caddies, as long as you're still in the state, you're okay.