Sandra Post - Part 3 (The Later Years)

Lee Trevino 0:07

Straight down the middle. It went straight down a bit. Then it started to get it.

Mike Gonzalez 0:15

You had uh you had a very good year in 79. Three wins on the LPG tour. You were number two on the money list that year, weren't you?

Sandra Post 0:20

Oh yeah, I was. Yeah. After Nancy. And um, you know, we were playing in Japan a lot, and and I was going to Japan a lot. I, you know, I started uh pioneering Japan in 1972 with um a number of the gals. Uh we go, I go, I went a lot. I went 19 times. I and I I ended up I love Japan. And I befriended Chakochi and Marba Sasaki, who were the first two players uh to come to the LPGA tour. And I liked their golf courses. I I just I liked it there. And um anyway, um I was doing a lot of travel, international travel. Uh we were, you know, we were really branching out around the world, doing, you know, doing playing not tournaments so much as exhibitions and things like that. So we were on, we were getting out there, the tour was really expanding, and all a lot of that has to do with Colgate Pomalev taking us around the world.

Mike Gonzalez 1:18

So we're talking about uh arguably Sandra's best year on the tour in 1979. You know, as you as you close out the 70s, you look at the money, and of course Sandra talked about the impact that David Foster and Colgate had on the tour. I I think in 1970 the total purse on tour all year 435,000. Colgate gets involved by the end of the 70s in 1980, the purses are up over five million dollars. So you guys were seeing some growth. You picked a good time to be second on the money list in 79. You start out winning the Colgate Dinah dinosaur, but then you go to the 1979 Lady Michelobe at Brookfield West.

Sandra Post 1:57

Yeah, Atlanta. Mm-hmm. Um, again, uh springtime in Georgia. Can't be any better.

Bruce Devlin 2:04

Being a pretty good player, too. Pat Bradley.

Sandra Post 2:07

Woo! Oh, yeah, Bradley, okay. I love Bradley. She is the best, she's so much fun. But it's a narrow little golf course, you know, it's surrounded by these, you know, big houses. I actually had met a family there. I didn't ever didn't really stay in people's houses, you know, during the week, but I did there. And uh they were extremely nice. They had a house on like the fourth hole, and um, and uh yeah, uh before you know it, um I win that. But I what I remember most about that is the um the gallery, and they were full of a lot of hockey players because of the Atlanta Flames. Oh, yeah. And for some reason there were a lot of Montreal Canadian guys, you know, that were were were involved with the Flames, and they were living in Atlanta, and they came out and they would go. They would go from house to house, from hole to hole, and just knock on people's doors, and they would go through, and everybody was having a party on the back of their decks, and they'd be yelling at me hole to hole all the way in. And um, it was a great win, really. It was a fun win at um at Brookville West. It was not expected, but then none of my wins were expected.

Mike Gonzalez 3:25

Well, you had one more win in you, uh, didn't you, Bruce, that year?

Bruce Devlin 3:29

Real estate classic in uh Brookridge uh country club in Kansas. Two two shots of Donna Capone.

Sandra Post 3:36

Yeah, and the last group I played with Wentworth and Kathy Shirk, a fellow Canadian. And um again, um, yeah, Donna and I, we went ahead to head a couple of times. In West Virginia, too. I beat her in a playoff. But anyway, not to digress, um, it was a pretty straightforward event. Um I uh yeah, I remembered more my pairing than winning. I mean, I remember winning. Uh but uh but you know, it was that was a you know, I'd never won in the Midwest like that before, so that was good.

Mike Gonzalez 4:06

Yeah, and of course, uh, you know, you've you've you've won a lot of accolades and had recognition over your career. Of course, uh we talk about 79 being in such a good year for you. You cap it off by winning the Lou Marsh Trophy as Canada's athlete of the year. Big deal.

Sandra Post 4:22

Yeah. You know, when I first went on tour, we have two awards in this country that were near and dear to my heart. And they're awards, and and you need people to vote for you. And the first one was the female athlete of the year. It's called the Bobby Rosenfeld, named after a great athlete that we had here. She was sort of like a uh a babe's areas type. She was a um, you know, very good Olympian. Olympian. Boy, you and when you you're the only professional athlete, you don't go up against Olympians in this country back in 1968. And I'm thinking, 1968, well, I'm like the first Canadian. I want to major, I'm rookie of the year. I did everything I thought I could. It was an Olympic year. Do you know what I finish in the voting for female athlete of the year? Fifth. I am devastated at this, okay? I am devastated at this. So I think about it, and I think I have a lot more work to do. You know, we've increased the tournaments. The tournaments have gone from one LPG tournament to four here in Canada for 1969. So, uh, and I'm the only Canadian, so hey, this is good, but I've got to, we've got the we've got a we've got to really step it up here, okay, with the LPGA in Canada. So anyway, I have some good years, but I'm really not on the radar and the media, they elect you, okay? In 78, I did get the Bobby Rosenfeld Award. And I was as pleased with that, I mean, you can't imagine how what that means to me. And um so now comes 79, and I have even a better year. And I'm standing on the green, putting green, at Richelieu Valley in Montreal for the LPJ Championship. And the media come around, and uh they said, so Sandra, what do you think? You've um you're having a great year. You you know, you won the dinosaur. I mean, you you had a great year, you're playing well, you're you're like, you know, second on the money. At that time, I was really up there. I might even been leading at that time. So what do you think? You've never had any been a had, you know, you haven't had any, we've never given you many many awards here in this country, you know, and I'm really after the Lou Marsh, but that's hard to win in this country against hockey players. Are you kidding?

Mike Gonzalez 6:50

Yeah.

Sandra Post 6:50

Wayne Gretzky.

Mike Gonzalez 6:51

Wayne Gretzky, just to name one. Yeah. Yeah.

Sandra Post 6:54

So anyway, so I said, you know what? You know, again, this is way where I go. Oh, I said, you know what, I know what I've done. And and you know, I've been on tour now for 10 years, and I know what I've done. And so it's no longer my problem, it's yours. And and I won that year, the Lou Marsh and the Bobby Rose and Valvivore.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

Yeah, about that.

Sandra Post 7:17

And it really, it was really um, you know, I I you know, I beat a race car driver and a good one, and uh, but it's um yeah, it it really meant a lot to me.

Mike Gonzalez 7:27

Yeah, Bruce, you had a couple more wins in her.

Bruce Devlin 7:30

That's right. 1980 West Virginia LPGA Classic. Uh, and guess who she beats again? Donna Capone in the playoffs.

Sandra Post 7:39

Donald three-putted the last green to let me in. And um, I'm I'm heading to my head, is already, I am on the way to Pittsburgh. I'm gonna catch the plane to Toronto to play in the DeMaurier Classic next week at Toronto. And no, I'm not. I'm going down 10 in a playoff with Donna. And uh sure enough, you know, three holes later, I chip in. Oh. And it really was hers. It truly was her tournament. And I don't know, I just came in the back door, but going back to Wentworth, you know, you sort of never give up. You can't control what they do. Hopefully, you can control what you do. I chip in a lot. What can I tell you?

Bruce Devlin 8:20

Yeah. In 1981, the McDonald's kids classic in the White Manor Country Club in Pennsylvania, where you mean a bean beat a pretty good girl again, the Amy Alcott by two shots.

Sandra Post 8:34

Yeah, Amy. Uh um, and I don't know if you've ever played that golf course. I'm sure you have, haven't you, Bruce?

Bruce Devlin 8:42

I uh I may have a long time ago. I don't remember it, though. Remember what I said about my memory?

Sandra Post 8:48

Okay. So, like many courses in the Philadelphia area, it's fantastic. And boy, you talk about a life lesson in the Saturdays round. I am moving along. I've got such a big lead. I can't, I've got such a big lead that I can't even keep track of it, okay? And I do something, something horrible, how I finished that day. It's like I know there were double bogeys involved, okay? And I think I'm now back to about tied with Amy going into the final round. Well, I you know, Bruce, I don't know, I'm don't know if you ever did this, but you sort of have to punish yourself when you when you when you do something that stupid. So for me to be punished, first of all, I was gonna stay in my room. So when they asked me, Judy said, Do you want to come to dinner? I said, No, I am not talking. And I went to my room and I ordered scrambled eggs because that's all I could eat. I was sick about what how my head had gotten ahead of me. And I'm better than that. I have great caddy at that point. I had this um Jabbo. Jabbo was I got Jabbo, Jabbo. Oh, I can't tell you. He was so responsive. He could read greens. I I need to say something about Jabbo. You know, as we were growing on tour, we went from having these tour caddies, you know, these little kids that caddied for a week, to having real caddies. And I and I and and Red, who was Judy Rankin's caddy, came to me one day and and back in the 70s and and said, you know, there's a good caddy coming our way from the senior tour. He's Lee Elder's caddy. His name is Jabble. And do you do you want him? And I said, Yeah, you know, and I said, I do. And so we seven years we were together, and could he read Greens and he could read me? And he didn't talk much, but he really knew what to say and when not to say. And um anyway, so we, you know, we teed off that final round, and and uh we knew what the first hole was gonna have is the hole enchilada. Okay, we know if we start out okay, we settled down, we settled in. That first hole, you gotta settle in. Don't you don't even have to make birdie because the birdie just shoots your adrenaline up. No, no, just stay level, just settle in. And that's all we did. We settled in and we went on to win. And it was uh Betsy Rawls was the the tournament director at that time. She left the tour and had a wonderful job with McDonald's, and uh they went on to become great sponsors and great sponsors of golf in many ways. And uh yeah, McDonald's kids classic. It turned into uh, you know, bigger tra bigger tournament along the way.

Mike Gonzalez 11:35

Yeah, sure. I think the obvious question for me would be where in the heck was Jabbo uh on the last four holes on Saturday.

Sandra Post 11:44

Well, I sometimes you can't stop that. You if your player's head is racing, you know, it's like a tornado's gotten in there and it's kind of going, do you know what I mean, Bruce?

Bruce Devlin 11:55

I didn't know exactly what you mean.

Sandra Post 11:57

You know, you try to look calm and you've been there before, done that. You know, and it's like it's like the demons are on the shoulder, they're everywhere. And it's like, get me out of here and let me retry to restart the next day. And you really don't usually come back. And um, but again, back to Wentworth in her words. I can't control what the rest of the field's gonna do. No, hopefully, oh boy, this is a challenge. Can I turn myself around? That's a big challenge, a big ask. Yes.

Mike Gonzalez 12:26

Well, to your credit, and and and uh you know, give the details for our listeners. Uh on that end of Saturday around, Sandra had led after 50 holes by four. Four holes later, she's trailing by three after three rounds. So she gave up seven shots and four holes. Uh to your credit, you come up and shoot one under 71 in some tough wind that final day to get the victory.

Sandra Post 12:51

Yeah, well, I was a good win player. Um, and only because my flop, my my swing plane is flat. Um I um I get my weight to the front foot very quickly. I drive the ball this way. So yeah, I liked wind. I wait, I you you swear I was from Texas.

Bruce Devlin 13:09

I thought I heard you say that you hit it low with a little hook.

Sandra Post 13:12

I did, why not? And and even on a hilly golf course, it all helps. And I love knocking the ball down, and I love trapping it, and I uh trap chip shots, I trap everything. And um, yeah, anyway, that was a great win. And and to beat Amy. Amy got me once. She got me, oh, she got me in a playoff at Turnberry. She made a 25-footer to get me, and she got me at the Orange Blossom Classic. She owed me one.

Bruce Devlin 13:39

She owed me one. There you go. There you go. There you go.

Mike Gonzalez 13:45

You decided to wind it down then around uh 1983 at age 35. What was uh what was your thought process then?

Sandra Post 13:54

Well, many things. The fire was starting to go out, maybe my game. I don't know which comes first, the chicken or the egg here. Um also another page out of from Wentworth. And you know, she was still still on tour, trying to play. And some of them were staying on tour. Um, because there was not many ways that you could actually lose your card. And um I was starting to figure out well, you know, I was single, uh, but where did I want to go? Where did I want to spend the rest of my life? I needed to be young enough to maybe start a new career. I mean, again, I didn't go to university, so I'm gonna have to figure this out. I did not want to grow old on tour. Okay, I did not want those I've been on the top of the leaderboard, I didn't want to see those people passing me. I'm not a I wasn't going down the ladder, I was going out the door. And um, you know, and uh and you know, when that gets in your head, it's just a matter of figuring out how you're gonna leave. And um there's no I did, I did, I left. I mean, I flat out just left and I didn't come back. And I, you know, I I I knew knew some things, you know, and I don't share this with many people, but I loved playing with President Ford and in the pro ams, and I would talk just like I'm talking to you with anybody that I played with. It didn't matter if you, you know, who who I just this is how I talk to people, everybody the same. And you know, he'd asked me, you know, when we played many times, he he thought, you know, if I'd ever like to become an American, this is something that comes up in a conversation with a president of the United States.

Mike Gonzalez 15:41

Yeah, we were recruiting at the time. Yeah, right.

Sandra Post 15:45

Oh, Mr. President, you know, um, I had I had thought about it. Um, but I also think about my country. And you know, I miss my parents. I went on tour as a teenager, and I miss I miss I miss my country, I miss my family. When you're on the tour back then, you got to call home once a week collect. That's it. Yeah, we didn't have cell phones, no zooms, no nothing. We we I didn't see them for months. I saw them in the winter time. I didn't see them. And so when I was like 19, I was a young 19 when I went on tour. Very, very naive. So, and I I learned quite a bit, and um and so I said, you know, Mr. President, I've thought about this long and hard, and I love your country and the opportunity. You know, Bruce, you can understand what I'm saying here. The opportunity you are a originally a fellow Commonwealther.

Bruce Devlin 16:37

Yes, I was. Yes, still am. Uh I'm a dual citizen. Oh, you're a dual.

Sandra Post 16:41

Oh, okay.

Bruce Devlin 16:42

I'm a dually.

Sandra Post 16:42

I thought you were an expat. Okay.

Bruce Devlin 16:44

Yes. I'm a dually.

Sandra Post 16:46

Okay. So uh, you know, I said, you know, I've thought about this and and and where I want to sort of spend the rest of my life. And, you know, Mr. President, you've got a lot of me's here in this country. And he looked at me and I said, Yeah, there's a lot of women that can be teachers and you know, and they can do a lot in the game of golf and give back here. You've got a lot. Canada doesn't have any. I have to go back. And he looked at me. Good for you. He said, I really I admire that. But you know, if you ever change your mind, I do everything in my power to help you. And I'm going, wow. I mean, I thought he was a wonderful man, not because of that. He was like, he was just, you could talk to him. And he would ask me things like, Why are you asking me these things? That's way too, that's over my pay grade. You know, he was a wonderful man to play with, really real. And um uh, but he did, he did say that to me. And I always, and I always, it'll always be in my head, and it was could have been easy. I could have gone one way or the other, but I packed it up and I came home, and I didn't have one thing to come home to. Not one thing. I went home back home to my parents' house and I sat there and I wondered, what am I going to do? But I was fairly young, had a good, obviously, I I was a best golfer, probably, had a major, and you know, I wasn't afraid to try, try things, you know. So I I I had an offer to to do television, and I did it here in Canada for the golf, you know, and so everything that came my way. I wasn't great at it all, but boy, I never said no. If I like if it intrigued me, I I was sort of game to do it. And um, you know, and I often think of young players today, and some have asked me, you know, um, what should I do? You know, because we the LPGA player doesn't have much of a future even today. There's no senior tour to go to. There's there's nothing. You you've got to figure it out. And I said, well, if you love the game, if you truly love the game, you gotta figure out how to stay in the game. And and they look at me and I said, you know, look at some like Judy Rankin became an announcer, you know, and and and and a lot of them have gone on to be instructors or had their own business and run things, and but they've stayed in the game. Some are managers at golf course, some they have wonderful uh jobs and careers, a second career in the game. But that's uh basically what I tell them. But you gotta really love the game. You can't have any um caught up with anything that you think you were on the tour, check that at the door, and you know, start over again and um and and and and give back and have and and make the most of your love for this game.

Mike Gonzalez 19:49

You had 25 years in the broadcasting business. Of course, Bruce Devlin shares that experience with you, having done a little bit of that himself.

Sandra Post 19:56

Yeah, and Bruce was good. He'll be the last person to tell you that.

Mike Gonzalez 20:00

Of course he will.

Sandra Post 20:02

He was really good, and I remember him really the most. He will not remember playing with Chaco. We were in the last group, I think Judy was our third, Judy Rankin, at Myrtle Beach, and he was on course commentator, and there was Chaco, Judy, and myself. I'm quite sure it was Judy, I know it was Chaco, and we were chasing down the LPJ Championship. And Judy and I finished second. I know I finished second. Chaco won. But I was so seriously, I was more nervous on the first tee when Bruce came up with the headphones and said, I'm gonna be your on course commentator. I'm thinking, it's like George Newton looking at me. It's like, look, he's gonna wonder how I ever got in the last group or something. I don't know. I'm hoping I'm hitting a good shot. But seriously, I don't know why I was like that. But I had enough of the other that I could get across the finish line too. So there you go. It's just the way I'm put together.

Mike Gonzalez 21:03

But also I see uh Sandra Post Golf Schools for quite a number of years, Sandra Post Golf Travel. We've got Sandra Post Golf Clubs with Jazz Golf, co-instruct uh co-authoring in a golf instruction book, Sandra Post and me, editor of World of Women's Golf. I mean, you were you talk about staying with the game. You were involved in a wide aspect of uh game-related ventures.

Sandra Post 21:28

And I've really loved it. And I still have my golf school, and I'm still busy and I'm active on boards and things like that because I figured a way to stay in the game. And um you know, back to teaching, because that was really that and the broadcasting came together. I actually went and did a little bit with Judy Rankin, but I d you know, I honestly I couldn't really wrap my head around it because I couldn't hit the road again. I just didn't want to, you know. I mean, I don't Judy. Really would have liked me to, I just didn't put my heart in it at all because I I really wanted to stay home. I really seriously wanted to stay here. But anyway, um, yeah, the first two things I did and I still am doing is is teaching. And I never had any idea that I would be a good communicator of how to hit the golf ball. I mean, when I look back and uh again, how did I learn? I learned from some of the best. You know, you know, like for instance, you know, when I won the dinosaur, and it was the the second it was the second time I won it. Um it was the second time I won it. I I really hit it well that first day. And I went into the locker room and Marlene Hagee said, What'd you shoot? And it was a good score. I think it was 70. And she said, Oh, that's good. And I said, I am not kidding you. No, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Because I was shot is I shot 65, yeah, one of those days. Anyway, it really doesn't matter. The key was I went into the locker room and I said to um Marlene, you know, I could have shot 65 today. I said, I just I'm having so much trouble putting. I and I I have tried, I have asked Johnny Miller, I have asked everybody that I have crossed paths with, you know, uh Peter Oosterhouse, who is a, you know, is a mixed team partner. If I had a mixed team partner, I just asked them questions, you know. And I said, nobody seems to put it like I do. I don't know. I I what's wrong with me? I make a lot of putts, no, I don't. I just made them. She says, Well, there's one person that putted it like you, and he likes you, he would help you, and he lives nearby. And I said, Who? He said, Bob Rosberg. And I said, Rossi.

Bruce Devlin 23:46

Rossi.

Sandra Post 23:47

And I said, Rossi? She said, Yeah. She said, You want me to call him? I said, Yes. She says, Okay, meet him at six o'clock over at La Quinta. I go over La Quinta, and he said, Well, what's wrong? I said, I can't make it from six feet like this. And he said, Let me see. And he said, Well, you've got a little pop stroke. He said, Yeah, I I I can identify with a pop stroke like this. And he played with me before in a mixed team event. Like he says, okay. So he showed me something, a little trick. And so I was there for two hours. It was dark. We were still putting, La Quinta. I go back the next day. I mean, I'm in, I'm on the leaderboard, I'm in good shape. And Jab was, and we go to the practice green. He said, So, what do you think? And I said, I can't tell you. But I saw Bob last night, Bob Rosberg last night, and I'll tell you after the first green. And sure enough, I had a four-footer. That ball went in the hole so fast, it popped up and down, but it needed a little bit of bravery. You need to be brave to putt well, you know, but it went in, and I said, Debo, we're gonna be okay. But and I did give Rossi, but I did. I mean, whether it was, you know, Marlene Bauer Heggy, when just before when I won there at um at White Manor, I came in the clubhouse again. I said, Marlene, why driver? I'm I'm I'm hooking like it is so ugly. It's it's it's going left. And she said, Come on, let's go to the range. And she says, Your feet are too narrow. What is that? And I said, I don't know. I have widened my stance, won the tournament. You know, Wentworth, mental. I, I mean, Judy Rankin, oh my goodness, if my and she's my friend, but I I mean I've admitted to her. I said, Well, you know, when you let me play practice rounds with you, I just watched how you played the course because we hit it the same distance. And her her golf course management, like around uh Mission Hills, because she lived there, she knew how to cut off a few yards by just hitting certain mounds off the T. Like she is so intelligent. And so I would play practice around. Hey, she's my friend, but if she would allow me to do that, I would watch. I would watch the best in the short game. I would just watch them, how they chipped and they putted. And I don't care if it was from the PGA tour or the women's tour. That's that's all we had. We really didn't have much else. We didn't have we didn't even have we didn't have videos. I mean, I'm glad I didn't have videos on my golf swing. I mean, I you know, I we didn't have it, so um, that's how we learned. That's how we learned.

Mike Gonzalez 26:29

So you didn't travel with a team?

Sandra Post 26:31

No team.

Mike Gonzalez 26:33

No team.

Sandra Post 26:34

No team. I know. I am amazed at these teams, though.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

Can you imagine a chef?

Sandra Post 26:41

How about a masseuse?

SPEAKER_02 26:44

Yeah.

Sandra Post 26:44

How about that, Bruce?

Bruce Devlin 26:46

Yeah.

Sandra Post 26:47

You know, I don't, you know, I I'm sort of so. I wanted to figure it out in my own head. Like, I I don't want anybody to know, I didn't want anybody to know anything. Like my anything. If I had a secret, I'm keeping it. I'm not sure. Um, like, like I I, you know, I I didn't, if people thought Pat Bradley once, she was winning at at um in in Denver once, and we're a last group walking down the fairway, and I used to have a certain walk about me, and she says, You always, and she was winning. She says, you know, you always walk like you're good winning the tournament. And I said, I'm hoping you're believing that. So, you know, it's it's just, I don't know. It's just the fun things we had and we did, and the way we we had to figure it out. You know, it built us as people, it built us, it built us as um who we are today.

Mike Gonzalez 27:45

Yeah, you know, Bruce, as we wind down the stories with these ladies, there's always a handful of questions we like to ask them.

Bruce Devlin 27:52

That's right. Right. Do you want me to take the first one? I want you to take the first one. All right, Sandra. Bruce, here's the question. So if you were capable of knowing what you know now, what would you have done when you were 20 years old? Would you have made any changes?

Sandra Post 28:15

Well, I I would have gone to university, first of all. And that would have changed the dynamic of everything, uh, my youth and everything, and I would have grown up playing university golf. And not that I would trade the education I had, because you can't get that education uh that I got, but um, I think I would have loved the university experience and uh I would have had that underneath me.

Mike Gonzalez 28:40

And of course, we really didn't talk at the outset about uh how history evolved for women, but uh you certainly came well ahead of Title IX. And so the opportunities for women golfers, university teams, they they were almost non-existent for women back in the 60s.

Sandra Post 28:54

They were. And I remember even, you know, when Title IX was gathering speed and Billie Jean King came on our tour to speak to us and and things like that. I mean, we're so far, we you know, the whole first of all, the women's lip. That's when she really came out, and we were starting to really get ahead. But uh we were always, of course, backing things like Title IX. You know, even though we were playing golf, we always, and this goes back to the founders. And, you know, we were never segregated, Bruce. And uh they that was a vote, and that was a serious vote. And I knew that, even though I wasn't on tour, I knew that before I went on tour. And that's what the the Whitworths instilled in us, Kathy Whitworth instilled in us. It was about, and there were times when we were struggling, and we had chances of some other people even taking control of our tour. And no matter how we struggled, we were never gonna give up that that power that it was our tour. So that unfortunately, I wasn't fortunately, unfortunately, I I really had the the founders, I really had the conscious, the, you know, the conscious of the the the what was in my head all my life, actually.

Mike Gonzalez 30:07

All right, so we're gonna give you one career mulligan. Where do you take it?

Sandra Post 30:14

Oh, a career mulligan.

Mike Gonzalez 30:19

Can you think of one shot that would have just really made the difference?

Sandra Post 30:25

No. Not really. I I know that might be disappointing. But when I won the tournaments I won, I was happy with that. Do I think I could have won more? Probably. But I'm grateful with what I did, and I'm really actually happy with my life that I had on tour because I served on the board and I did things and and I was involved. I wasn't a bystander that way. And so, you know, I had lots of causes. No, I I had, you know, I I know what I believed in, and I was always involved and supported, you know, my friends who were presidents and on the board, and and um, you know, I I'm pretty I'm pretty happy with that, with the life that I had for the 16, 17 years I had on tour.

Bruce Devlin 31:09

Yep. Okay, so we got one more question. How would you like Sandra Post to be remembered?

Sandra Post 31:20

Well, I think just to be remembered would be nice.

Bruce Devlin 31:23

Um just to be remembered at all, right?

Sandra Post 31:26

Right. I mean, I'm very practical in that um, you know, records are made to be broken and people will, you know, everything is happening so fast today. Um, but um I how to to be remembered? Hmm. Well, I'm not really sure. I don't really think about that. I just try to do the best I can today, and I made mistakes like everybody did, and made maybe some bad decisions along the way, but that's life and that's learning. And um, I have to say, I'm pretty I I can live with myself and uh who I am and my and the way I am and um and and the the opinions I have.

Bruce Devlin 32:11

Well, I got something I can remember.

unknown 32:13

Okay.

Bruce Devlin 32:13

How how much it was a pleasure to have you with us today. Uh Mike and I had looked forward to chatting with you and having you tell your story. You've done a hell of a job, young lady.

Sandra Post 32:25

Oh, really? Oh, I'm just so thrilled to be to see you again, Bruce. You have no idea. And to and that you even asked me to do this. And um, you know, I believe every tour player, male and female, I mean, that have lived this big golf life have great stories. And I think some of the older people maybe have better stories than others. Maybe it's just the way we remember them. I don't know. But um I just I thank you for asking me to do this and you know, just to put Canada on the map. And by the way, you know, I I have one, you know, award that we didn't mention. It's called the Order of Canada, and it happens to be a little snowflake right here. And again, I never expected that's sort of like uh, you know, the orders of the British Empire and things like that that is bestowed upon you here in this country in Canada by the Governor General. And um, and I thought I'd wear it for you today. You're supposed to wear it at special occasions, and I think this has been a special occasion. It's been great to see you again, Bruce. Wonderful to meet you, Mike, and I wish you both I think this is so important what you're doing, to just capture capture uh people who have contributed to the game, and so that it will be you know for everyone to enjoy later on.

Mike Gonzalez 33:43

Well, we're grateful for the opportunity to be able to add your story to all the great golf uh folks that we've talked to uh up till now, and we really appreciate your time today. Thanks. Okay, thanks for the case.

Bruce Devlin 33:54

Thanks again, Sandra.

Mike Gonzalez 33:57

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Lee Trevino 34:16

So fairway smack down the fairway.